Did Mike Tyson become a boxer because a bully killed his pigeon?

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Did Mike Tyson become a boxer because a bully killed his pigeon?

Chuck Bluestein

Votes: 5844

I have an article of the New York Times. You can read it just by clipping the title or you may be happy with a short quote from it. The article is called Bird Week | Mike Tyson Defends the Pigeon. It says on it:

My birds never judged me or made me feel inadequate. They were totally dependent on me for food and shelter and I felt honored to be needed, and this made me feel wanted and relevant.

As a matter of fact, when a bully that was antagonizing me killed one of my birds in front of me, I snapped and began fighting him. If it weren’t for this guy hurting my beloved animal, I may not have ever had the desire to fight. By him hurting an innocent being that I loved and cherished, it was the catalyst to the fighter within.

I usually do not have quotes this long but I felt it was important. He got into some trouble but he has been a vegan for over 4 years and I bet he will do some really good things. Here is another question about him and his vegan diet that has made difference in his life.

Did Iron Mike Tyson lose 130 pounds by eating a vegan diet? Some say eating meat makes you more aggressive.

Luvuyo Nobadula

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Niklas Kager Kofler

Votes: 8838

Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera, or better known as El Chapo.

Oh, you did. You hired “mercenaries” in a certain sense and it didn’t work all too well in the end. Do you see the man above? He is El Chapo. One of the bosses of the bosses of the powerful Sinaloa cartel. He isn’t that important, though. What is interesting is the history of the Sinaloa cartel and how it managed one of the most powerful crime syndicates on this planet.

The story goes back to the early 2000s when the Sinaloa cartel made a fateful pact that would ensure its prosperous future. What did they do? They made a de facto pact with the US government. In exchange for information about their “competitors” and them eliminating all other competition in the drug business and therefore reducing the volume of drug trafficking, the US would provide the Sinaloa cartel with support on all levels.

The US indirectly financed the Sinaloa cartel by not screening and intercepting their “deliveries”. US agencies allowed them to fly a 747 cargo plane packed with cocaine into American airspace, unmolested.

And the US even directly armed them with all weaponry they could only wish for. What do you want more? Money, weapons, and probably intelligence. The US gave them everything to make them fight a proxy war for the US, almost like mercenaries.

And it worked, fantastically in fact. So, fantastically that the US government organisations helped to create one of the most powerful cartels Mexico has probably ever seen, or as the United States Intelligence Community said 2010 “the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world”. A cartel that is now completely beyond their control. Well done.

Tony Kent

Votes: 4579

I’ve included a picture of myself with Mike Tyson in this answer so that I am not accused of being ‘anti-Mike’. I queued up for over an hour for this meeting and spent a fortune on merchandise, just to meet the man. Because of my job and my background in boxing I know a lot of very famous ex-Champs and this was the only time I have ever had to do this to meet one of my heroes. But I did it, BECAUSE he is one of my heroes. I say all of that to preface my answer, as I don’t want anyone to suggest that any of what I say from here is anti-Tyson bias.

Okay, with that out of the way….

When you say that many people believe that Tyson was the greatest heavyweight ever, it is important to exclude those who are NOT in that list. And those who are NOT in that list include every single genuinely knowledgable and educated boxer, ex-boxer, coach, referee, judge and true boxing fan you will ever meet. Plus Mike Tyson himself.

No one with any proper knowledge regards Mike Tyson as the best. Because he wasn’t.

That is not to suggest that he was not great, or that he was not one of the best. He WAS great. He WAS one of the best. Amongst true boxing experts and fans, he is usually placed between 8th and 14th on the ‘best heavyweights of all time’ list. I have him at 11th on mine.

Many would think that’s fairly low. It isn’t. There have been tens of thousands of heavyweights over the years, most of them exceptionally hard, tough men. There have been hundreds of world champions. To be 11th? That’s incredible!! That is true greatness.

But when you are getting to the top ten, you are getting into the realms of the truly special. Top five, and it gets almost supernatural in terms of ability, strength, speed, technique, durability and that rarest of things: ring generalship. You have to look at so many different elements of the game to be up this high. Who did they beat? What stage of their career were those people they beat enjoying at the time they were beat? Who did they avoid? To whom did they lose? How did they lose? At what stage in THEIR career did they lose? How did they cope in adversity? How did they cope against different styles of fighter? How did they adapt when necessary?

Mike Tyson is regarded as the greatest by casual boxing fans who have seen a highlight reel of devastating knockouts and have never bothered to ask themselves any of the questions set out above whilst watching it. Most importantly, they’ve never wondered who ANY of those people are who are being knocked out, and on whose fate they are basing the assessment that he is the greatest.

Put simply, Tyson was – with the possible exception of Jack Dempsey – the most electrifying, dynamic and exciting heavyweight champion in history. His style combined with his early opponent selection (good job, Micky Duff!!) to make for such incredible knockout performances that few can match for exhilaration. But being the most exciting is not the same as being the greatest. And this is what the many uneducated ‘Tysonites’ fail to understand.

So let’s ask ourselves the questions!

Who did Tyson beat?

Well, in his entire career he only faced three hall of fame heavyweights. One he beat, two beat him. The win was against Larry Holmes, who had been retired for 2 years, was 38 years of age, took the fight with 5 weeks notice, was several stone over-weight when starting training and who spent the camp just trying to bring that down, and who took no warm up fights. Tyson stopped him, after 3 rounds in which Holmes had bamboozled him and controlled him with his jab, until ring rust and sheer lack of fitness led to Holmes being put down. The Holmes of 5 years earlier would have been a very different story. As would the Holmes of a few years later, once he had taken a few warm-ups and gotten himself fit!

Who else? Michael Spinks was a hall of fame light-heavy, yes. But he was beaten by fear. He did not come to fight. He came to be executed. And it was a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Who else? A motley selection of mediocre heavyweights such as Frank Bruno, Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tubbs. All second stringers in their own era, let alone a great one. And then the massive collection of hand-picked nobodies who make up 95% of the KO highlight reels on which idiots base their opinions.

So that’s it. An early win against a fat, ring-rusty, retired great. A great KO of a terrified light-heavy. Some decent – and some drawn-out – wins over a few mediocrities. And some annihilations of carefully selected nobodies.

Next question: who did he avoid?

Well, there’s three we know of. Two he avoided completely, the other perhaps he should have continued to avoid!

First, George Foreman. Old, fat, cuddly George. Tyson point blank refused to fight Foreman when the latter came out of retirement. Because – like George – Tyson knew he could not win that fight. Foreman initially came back purely to fight Tyson (for the money, of course!!) because he knew that he had the exact style to beat him. Cuz D’Amato knew that, too, when he stated that no short, come forward fighter stood a chance against George Foreman. And Tyson – a brilliant student of boxing – knew it, when he told Don King ‘I’m not fighting that fucking animal’ and said ‘if you love that fight so much, you fucking fight him’.

Second, Tyson – or, to be fair, his matchmakers – avoided Tim Witherspoon. They did so because, again, his style was all wrong for Tyson. His long jab and fluid movement were not quite ‘Ali-like’, but they were close enough to be a problem for Tyson. And so they avoided him.

Third – ironically – is Buster Douglas, who Tyson’s former match-maker Micky Duff stated he would NEVER agree for Tyson to fight, for the same reason Duff would not put Tyson in with Witherspoon; the style (similar but inferior to Witherspoons) was all wrong for Mike. Duff is on record as saying that he turned down Douglas when offered several times, and could not understand why the fight was made when it finally was (several fights after Duff had left the team).

So the question is posed: if he’s the greatest, why is he avoiding retired old men and fighters of a certain style. Did Ali avoid anyone? Did Louis? Did Frazier? No. No they did not. Because the very best don’t need to. They take on all comers and they prove their greatness.

Next question: who BEAT Tyson.

First, Lennox Lewis and Holyfield. Tysonites will claim that Tyson was late in his career when these losses occurred, and he was not ‘the same Tyson’. I’ll accept that to a degree with Lewis. Tyson was a train-wreck b…

Breadmosphere

Votes: 8927

Who would win The Taliban Or The Cartels?

Taliban – Experienced paramilitary radicals who are firm in their radical beliefs. They have faced war and bombings and have much battle experience. Many of them have went through training and are equipped with weapons such as missile launchers, AKs, Trucks, machine guns, etc.

Cartels – People who fight for money – if no money, they will not fight

Yeah I think I know who will win

Guy D. McCardle

Votes: 8699

Rocky was filmed in the mid-70s. For a long time, eggs have been considered the perfect food and have been consumed by athletes.

** Just say no.

It was Rocky’s form of an all-natural protein shake. Come to think of it; I’m not sure if protein powders had been introduced into the market at that time or not.

Should he have been consuming raw eggs? Of course not. Raw eggs often contain Salmonella or other bacteria that can cause food poisoning.

It’s hard to fight for the championship with your head stuck in the toilet.

Carl Jacobson

Votes: 6190

Who was the greater boxer, Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson?

Based on career accomplishments, I’d say Evander Holyfield.

Mike Tyson, at his best, was a prodigy and a phenomenon,but his prime was short and he didn’t do well against boxers who wouldn’t wilt when facing him.

Holyfield, in contrast, was really an overachiever. A blown up cruiser weight, who faced the biggest champion boxers in his day (Bowe, Lewis) and both lost and won. Holyfield was a solid technician with a huge heart and a ton of courage. He’s not as naturally gifted as Tyson, and was largely self-built, but he was great competitor and the big fights brought out the best in him.

Matt Prieto

Votes: 2386

I liken it to a spirited gym war where both guys are on the same team and both need to be at 100 percent for an upcoming competition.

When I was still wrestling competitively and preparing for a match with a teammate, we didn’t take it easy on each other.

We also didn’t wrench or “force” any moves in such a way that injury could be caused. If we got tangled in an awkward position we stopped immediately to protect each other.

But there were still bloody noses and busted lips and sore muscles.

I think that’s what Mike and Roy did. They fought and put it on the line but when push came to shove they weren’t gonna try to “hurt” each other.

I dunno if that makes sense to anyone but that’s what I saw and felt. Sure they wanted to get the better of it but they weren’t concerned about winning.

Whether or not that’s taking it easy on each other I guess is personal opinion.

Hailey Lawless

Votes: 4576

… I uh, I don’t think that’s a fucking fight. That’s like outright slaughter.

(23 Of them.)

The wolf…

I won’t even entertain how that’s going to look. But a wild animal like that is going to absolutely destroy those domesticated little ankle bitters.

Jeremy Sitorus

Votes: 6453

The Gangster Disciples, the largest Chicago gang (50,000 members, tops), look like this:

And the Sinaloa cartel, Mexico’s most powerful (30,000 members), looks like this:

The membership numbers clearly do not tell all.

There isn’t much material about the Disciples’ arms, but what I can tell you is that the Sinaloa Cartel boasts scores of tactical body armor, machine guns (I’m not talking submachine guns, I’m talking actual machine guns) and, as you can see, armored vehicles.

The Sinaloa and Tijuana cartels have been fighting since the 90s, and since then, the former has deployed 100,000 armored vehicles – five times the number of Sinaloa participants – including 500 ‘narco tanks’, a narco-submarine, and fifteen helicopters somehow.

The Sinaloa Cartel not only runs its own operations in Chicago, but boasts influence extending all the way to the Philippines.

In short, the Disciples get absolutely eviscerated by the Sinaloa Cartel, without a doubt.

EDIT: Fine, fine, since none of you bothered to check if anyone else had told me that the pictures are of the CJNG, fine! I was wrong. These pictures are of the Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generación (lit. Jalisco New Generation Cartel) and not the Sinaloa Cartel. There. Happy now?

Johnny Walker

Votes: 8139

Is Mike Tyson an overrated bully or a tragic case of what could have been?

More of a tragic Figure even if like most of us his most severe problems were self inflicted. The unwanted son of a drug addicted prostitute mother and a unknown father.How does one go b from earning 300 million to having no money? Don King as a promoter and gold digging Robin Givens as a wife!Add in buying cars you never drove and houses you never lived in, and basically spending money faster than you can earn it.

Joe Duarte

Votes: 5115

The US military would vaporize the cartels in a few weeks or months.

The answers talking about guerilla warfare, Vietnam, or a long stalemate are way off. This wouldn’t be anything like Vietnam. There would be no protracted war. The cartels have none of the advantages or characteristics that keep the Taliban going, for example. They don’t have an ideology compelling enough to power a guerilla war, or the training, disposition, or geography.

With current US intelligence abilities, almost all key cartel members could be located leading up to a strike. The US could send teams to take them all out the same night (say up to 50 targets). These would be special operators like Delta, DEVGRU, regular SEALs, Rangers, SF, MARSOC, and whoever else they needed.

Subsequent operations would be similar. There would be no conventional battles, but that’s irrelevant. Saying that the cartels wouldn’t choose to fight pitched battles ignores the fact that the US wouldn’t either. This would be a special operations war, and this is where the present-day US military shines the most.

US special operations forces are a huge overmatch over the cartels. It’s a night and day difference in ability and lethality. The cartels have never seen anything like what these battle hardened operators would do to them, and the technology and intelligence abilities they would leverage.

(It would help to simultaneously legalize drugs, and we should do that regardless, but the cartels have already done such unspeakable things to huge numbers of innocent people that action might be justified even if we ended the drug war. The cartels have done such unbelievable, awful things that it’s dangerous and unjust to let them run free in any scenario.)

Darrin Fansler

Votes: 6555

The classic story goes that a young tyson was introverted had a lisp and was bullied. He took to flying pigeons as a hobby a bully ripped the head off his new bird and tyson tore into him knocking him out. Mike did his version of the ali shuffle loved the accolades his new found skill earned and soon neighbor good kids were carrying home his moms groceries for her

Jawed Akrim

Votes: 2640

To any true Tyson fan — this one’s easy .

The last time he trained, looked & boxed as a proper peekaboo practitioner was the Mike Spinks fight in June of 1988, where he wasn’t too far off invincibility. In this absolutely dominant performance, he perfectly encapsulated the core ethos of elite level boxing : to hit & not get hit back in return… Coincidentally & unsurprisingly, this was also the last time Kevin Rooney trained him.

From this point onwards, under highly questionable trainers & management, he functioned mostly as a “willing” brawler who relied solely on his vaunted punch & simply looked to land a finishing bomb at the earliest possible juncture. Against the technically limited Frank Bruno & mediocre Carl “The Truth” Williams, his power alone was more than enough to get the job done. But this lackadaisical & arrogant mentality came to the fore against Buster Douglas in 1990 & cost the Iron Man heavily, as he relinquished all his belts to a much lesser boxer.

Jon Jones

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Nikolai Valeev is 7′2″ and 6′3″ David Haye easily beat him to become the HW champ. By your criteria David Haye at least belongs in the hall of fame and probably should knock Ali off the top HW spot.

Which is obviously silly, Haye was pretty good but no where near a Hall of Famer. And similarly Mike Tyson- who knocked dozens of taller fighters out. HW greatness is not bestowed on guys who knock giants out or on guys who knock inferior fighter out.

Joe Louis had his ‘ bum of the month club’. While he is undoubtedly a Great he knocked over dozens of dummies. What made him a Great was the length of his reign and the fact that he beat the best in with his “bums”.

Iron Mike was an awesome fighter for just a few years. But the only hall of famer he beat was 38 yr old Larry Holmes. When he went up against top fighters such as Holyfield and Lewis he fell short.

So he isn’t the Greatest and is generally placed around number 11 in the best HWs of all time rankings.And that’s a little flattering because he was the brightest star in a time when boxing was in a slump.

He won his title at 19 – which is an unbeaten achievement and likely nobody will ever again be a champ at his age. But he won it off Trevor Burbick who was on his first defence- who had at best a spotty record 61/11/1 and of his 49 wins less than 60% were KOs.

He looked at 19 to be headed for the best HW ever. And lit a fire under boxing which went around the world. Don King, partying and the allure of celebrity pissed on Mikes fire before he truly became Great.

Howard Kirshenbaum

Votes: 3038

Is Mike Tyson proving that most boxers today can’t beat him?

Mike Tyson, when he’s not in the ring, is a scholar of boxing, and incredibly respectful of other fighters. He, much like Foreman, is amazingly generous about current fighters and wants to build up boxing today rather than tear it down. I’ve heard Foreman and Tyson praise boxers they would have rendered comatose inside of one round. Mike Tyson’s namesake, Tyson Fury, said candidly he thinks Mike would have knocked him out inside of 30 seconds, and he probably wasn’t wrong. But Mike is too much of a class act nowadays to say such a thing. I think Mike is great for boxing, and would have slaught

Greg Zartman

Votes: 2513

What influenced Mike Tyson to become a boxer?

He grew up in a very poor part of Brooklyn and was raising pigeons in a old vacant building. I can’t remember if he was doing this to sell them or if it was just a hobby kind of thing. Either way, he really liked his pigeons and caring for them. Apparently some bigger kid who was bulling him came along one day and grabbed a pigeon out of MIke’s hands and killed it right in front of him. Mike lost it and beat the crap out of the bully. (one of his first actual fights). He really liked the sensation of fighting — and winning — and so he sought out a gym to learn how to box. At this gym, Constant

Stanley “Stosh” Pendowski

Votes: 7599

Is Mike Tyson the greatest boxer of all time? Why or why not?

He most Definitely could have been one of the greatest of all time, Maybe the longest reigning Undisputed heavyweight champion of all time! But with the death of Cus D’Amato, (who trained the likes of 2 time heavyweight champion Floyd Patterson, and light heavyweight champion Jose Torres), Tyson was Doomed,He lost the hunger! He lost quite a bit when Cus died, including the only father he had ever known! Then upon hooking up with the likes of “Don Convict King” and other nefarious characters, the fame going to his head, his career was done! They used him like a dishrag, and tossed him aside wh

John McGlothlin

Votes: 371

Who was the greater boxer, Sonny Liston or Mike Tyson?

Experts – like Ali, Mike Tyson, and Floyd Patterson – said Liston was a great technical boxer, better than anyone of that age except perhaps Ali. Johnny Tocco, who trained Tyson, Liston and Foreman, said Liston was the best of the three.

Record wise, he also dominates Tyson. He dominated the sport twice as long as Tyson did, and beat better competition.

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Only one fighter in history has knocked out an undisputed heavyweight champion in the first round.

Only one fighter in history has knocked out a sitting or former undisputed heavyweight champion twice in the first round.

That

Rob King

Votes: 7459

Was Mike Tyson actually a good fighter?

Mike Tyson was a great fighter actually, and for a short time it looked like he might be one of the best ever…

Mike Tyson

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Tyson remains the youngest heavyweight title holder ever, destroying Trevor Berbick in 1986 at just 20 years old, before unifying all the belts within a year.

He’d made 9 successful defences (7 by KO) by 1990, including notable destructions of former champs Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks.

Mike Tyson WTKO4 Larry Holmes (1988)

At 37–0 (33), Tyson’s aura of invincibility was palpable – popular culture portrayed him as more a force of nature than a man.

Within boxing, Ring

Red Subijano

Votes: 9110

What’s wrong with Sylvester Stallone’s lip?

When Jackie Stallone went into labor and was giving birth, there were complications and the physician used a pair of forceps to deliver baby Sylvester.

This resulted in a severed nerve that left him partially paralyzed to his left lip, chin and part of his tongue. This gave him his signature snarling look and slurred speech.

Stallone was subjected to bullying and ridicule as a kid. It was because of low self esteem, he decided to take up bodybuilding, and later pursued acting.

He has embraced it and is now a famous actor, director, screenwriter, and producer.

Fun fact, he appears as a guest charac

Daniel Prestwich

Votes: 3758

How good was Mike Tyson as a boxer?

Mike Tyson’s early record speaks for itself. But Mike was not blessed with great athletism. It took hard work and excellent trainers to find the perfect style for him. No he wasn’t a great boxer in the Muhammad Ali, Lennox Lewis type of fighting,but he had the Floyd Patterson ( peek a boo) with tremendous power from both hands and on any of his punchs. His offensive aggressive style was intimidati

Jawed Akrim

Votes: 1471

Did Mike Tyson in his prime only beat no name boxers?

I take it that you’ve never heard of “the Easton Assassin” Larry Holmes- probably the no.1 ring technician in HW history. In terms of a brutal beating administered to a hall of famer -this was maybe the worst hall of fame beatdown in HW history. This same Larry Holmes went the distance with Holyfield – four years later !! But obviously, if you feel the all-time great Larry Holmes is a “no namer” then you are entitled to your opinion. Believe me Holmes was very motivated for this fight & was always in shape. He said, “ if I get beat up- at least I can get $3 million worth of plastic surgery.” I

Christopher Pellerito

Votes: 534

What boxer had the shortest fight against Mike Tyson?

Tyson had 23 first-round knockouts in his pro career, including 12 of his first 16 pro fights. Of the 23 first-rounders, 13 occurred in the first minute of the fight.

These are the five quickest KOs in his pro ring record. Four of them came before he was the champ:

The 30 second knockout of Marvis Frazier (son of former heavyweight champ Joe Frazier) improved Tyson’s record to 25–0 and elevated him to the WBC’s #1 contender in

Elias GonzalezIsaac Israel Solis Hernandez

Votes: 9857

What would happen if Mexican cartels attacked American forces while building the wall?

In the hypothetical case that a wall would be build on the border, it would be made by contractors (most likely using ilegal Mexican labor) not by the Army Corp. Of Engineers. The other thing is why would drug cartels even care about a wall? That’s not how drugs enter the country. Drugs enter by truckloads under the loving care of corrupt border patrol, customs, ATF, DEA, FBI and maybe even CIA agents.

If you think the drug trade is all in the cartels, you give them WAY too much credit. The drug business involves very powerful people in both sides of the border and they don’t give a damn a abou

Jawed Akrim

Votes: 6862

Why do we not see boxers today fighting on a weekly or fortnight basis at the beginning of their boxing careers as Mike Tyson did?

For the simple reason that Mike Tyson was a natural born freak of nature that literally emerged from the primordial soup. He had that all guns blazing type of style that got his opponents out of there quickly- often in the 1st round, so he actually expended very little energy, took no punches & so there was little or no recovery time for him. Also both Cus & Jimmy Jacobs believed strongly in the philosophy of keeping fighters active, as in real time fights not just sparring. The best practice for fighting is actually fighting, so in essence practice makes perfect. D’Amato was also a wise old m

Hank Marducas

Votes: 6327

Who is Mike Tyson’s favourite boxer?

In the book Undisputed Truth, Tysons autobiography, he says his favourite boxer is Roberto Duran.

Duran was a ferocious lightweight with incredible power in his hands. Duran also famously beat Sugar Ray Leonard by playing mind games before the bout.

The trash talk leading up to the bout infuriated Sugar Ray so much he would abandon his game plan during the fight and try to brawl with Duran, which is

Lance Dillinger

Votes: 714

No that wasn’t what made him become a boxer ..the pigeon incident is what made him get into his first “street fight.” He wasn’t introduced to boxing until he went to jail as a teenager.

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